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	<title>Comments on: When once the forms of civility are violated, there remains little hope of return to kindness or decency.</title>
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		<title>By: Magson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *love* that Cleric build!

*runs off to copy it... or will when I get home from work, anyway*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *love* that Cleric build!</p>
<p>*runs off to copy it&#8230; or will when I get home from work, anyway*</p>
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		<title>By: mbp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit that I have had to use the Squelch (ignore) function in ddo a few times already although it was a racist diatribe rant in the advice channel that was my breaking point rather than elitist rant. I think that having folks who use the public chat channels as their own personal soap box is just a price you have to pay for a free to play game. I have found that once I squelch out the worst offenders the majority of ddo players are really rather pleasant. It does depend on time of day though. I guess at certain times of day the age profile of the players changes and the nature of the chat channel does too. 

PS - UR CLErac suxx Noob Luser U shud roll a BArb if yo wnat to be Leet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that I have had to use the Squelch (ignore) function in ddo a few times already although it was a racist diatribe rant in the advice channel that was my breaking point rather than elitist rant. I think that having folks who use the public chat channels as their own personal soap box is just a price you have to pay for a free to play game. I have found that once I squelch out the worst offenders the majority of ddo players are really rather pleasant. It does depend on time of day though. I guess at certain times of day the age profile of the players changes and the nature of the chat channel does too. </p>
<p>PS &#8211; UR CLErac suxx Noob Luser U shud roll a BArb if yo wnat to be Leet.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian 'Psychochild' Green</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2009/11/09/when-once-the-forms-of-civility-are-violated-there-remains-little-hope-of-return-to-kindness-or-decency/comment-page-1/#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian 'Psychochild' Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In PvP games, you get a different dynamic.  On the plus side, instead of people theorycrafting on the public channels you get people fighting it out to prove their ability is superior.  On the negative side, PvPers are sore losers; someone who loses will probably then spend more time creating alts to harass the person or broadcasting on the public channels about how much of a whore the winner&#039;s mother is.

Hmm, maybe not so different in that second part, after all, compared examples like Barrens Chat....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In PvP games, you get a different dynamic.  On the plus side, instead of people theorycrafting on the public channels you get people fighting it out to prove their ability is superior.  On the negative side, PvPers are sore losers; someone who loses will probably then spend more time creating alts to harass the person or broadcasting on the public channels about how much of a whore the winner&#8217;s mother is.</p>
<p>Hmm, maybe not so different in that second part, after all, compared examples like Barrens Chat&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Borror0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borror0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, interesting post. 

Personally, I just turn off General chat. Ever since we&#039;ve moved to F2P, there is nothing but garbage in there. If I want to help out the community, I&#039;ll go and edit the wiki instead. It&#039;ll be more helpful.

As for the templates and forums, it&#039;s not that bad actually. I don&#039;t think that anyone expected the developers to make perfectly optimized builds; that would change over time so that would be pointless. But, when the developers pick up things like Great Cleave which reduces your DPS rather than increase, it&#039;s bound to attract derision from the playerbase. Not a single sane player would make some of the decision that have been made when putting those builds together.

DDO has about the nicest community of any MMO I have played, ever, and many people at least make sensible points on the forums which is a rarity on MMO forums. 

We&#039;re currently enjoying a big increase of assholes, morons and other jerks but those will go away eventually or they&#039;ll at least get a clue about the game mechanism and will give decent advices. 

At the moment, many people are confusing DDO with D&amp;D or AD&amp;D which leads to hundreds of flame wars and the like but, given time, it&#039;ll probably improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, interesting post. </p>
<p>Personally, I just turn off General chat. Ever since we&#8217;ve moved to F2P, there is nothing but garbage in there. If I want to help out the community, I&#8217;ll go and edit the wiki instead. It&#8217;ll be more helpful.</p>
<p>As for the templates and forums, it&#8217;s not that bad actually. I don&#8217;t think that anyone expected the developers to make perfectly optimized builds; that would change over time so that would be pointless. But, when the developers pick up things like Great Cleave which reduces your DPS rather than increase, it&#8217;s bound to attract derision from the playerbase. Not a single sane player would make some of the decision that have been made when putting those builds together.</p>
<p>DDO has about the nicest community of any MMO I have played, ever, and many people at least make sensible points on the forums which is a rarity on MMO forums. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re currently enjoying a big increase of assholes, morons and other jerks but those will go away eventually or they&#8217;ll at least get a clue about the game mechanism and will give decent advices. </p>
<p>At the moment, many people are confusing DDO with D&amp;D or AD&amp;D which leads to hundreds of flame wars and the like but, given time, it&#8217;ll probably improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re wearing a robe (everyone knows healers wear cloth, duh) and carrying a staff!</description>
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