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	<title>Comments on: Grats is short for &#8216;gratuitous thanks&#8217;.</title>
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		<title>By: Shuttler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Shuttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like saying gratz

/hide

I also like achievements

/run</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like saying gratz</p>
<p>/hide</p>
<p>I also like achievements</p>
<p>/run</p>
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		<title>By: Arkenor</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2699</link>
		<dc:creator>Arkenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have left guilds because of this.

It&#039;s clear that some people have &quot;Grats!&quot; macroed. I never liked it anyway, as if they were actually impressed they might use a proper word. But it&#039;s become so totally meaningless.

I hate it more when it is directed at myself. I turn off such announcements that might initiate a round of grats when possible. When a grats strike hits, they expect you to say &quot;Tnx&quot;, or thanks, or otherwise acknowledge their meaningless and insincere ritual. I will never thank anyone for gratsing me. It&#039;s groupthink of the worst kind.

Yes, I&#039;m a horrible unsociable person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have left guilds because of this.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that some people have &#8220;Grats!&#8221; macroed. I never liked it anyway, as if they were actually impressed they might use a proper word. But it&#8217;s become so totally meaningless.</p>
<p>I hate it more when it is directed at myself. I turn off such announcements that might initiate a round of grats when possible. When a grats strike hits, they expect you to say &#8220;Tnx&#8221;, or thanks, or otherwise acknowledge their meaningless and insincere ritual. I will never thank anyone for gratsing me. It&#8217;s groupthink of the worst kind.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a horrible unsociable person.</p>
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		<title>By: Melmoth</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2698</link>
		<dc:creator>Melmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m registering gratsfornotplayingwow.com as we speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m registering gratsfornotplayingwow.com as we speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Melf_Himself</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2697</link>
		<dc:creator>Melf_Himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, the most gratz-worthy thing I can think of for a WoW player to do is NOT log into their account :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, the most gratz-worthy thing I can think of for a WoW player to do is NOT log into their account :p</p>
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		<title>By: Melmoth</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2696</link>
		<dc:creator>Melmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I have to try this now.

Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I have to try this now.</p>
<p>Genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2695</link>
		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ay&#039;ll mak fun uv you&#039;re speling once myne emproves.  :)

And I agree.  I like exploring but it just makes me happy, not because at the end of it I want some text-based group hug that all those gratzes seem to embody.

Sometimes, however, I am guilty of perpetuating the gratz chain even when I&#039;m not sure what people are gratzing over.  I think as a joke, I&#039;ll just randomly start typing gratz into guild chat at odd times to see how many people chime in with a gratz.

Guildy1: &quot;Anyone know where the horse guy is in Rivendell?&quot;

Guildy2: &quot;Go left and you&#039;ll hit the stables.  He&#039;s there.&quot;

Me: &quot;Gratz!!&quot;

Guildy1: &quot;Gratz!&quot;

Guildy3: &quot;Gratz!&quot;

Guildy4: &quot;Gratz!&quot;

Guildy2: &quot;What are we doing that for?&quot;

Me: *snicker*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ay&#8217;ll mak fun uv you&#8217;re speling once myne emproves.  :)</p>
<p>And I agree.  I like exploring but it just makes me happy, not because at the end of it I want some text-based group hug that all those gratzes seem to embody.</p>
<p>Sometimes, however, I am guilty of perpetuating the gratz chain even when I&#8217;m not sure what people are gratzing over.  I think as a joke, I&#8217;ll just randomly start typing gratz into guild chat at odd times to see how many people chime in with a gratz.</p>
<p>Guildy1: &#8220;Anyone know where the horse guy is in Rivendell?&#8221;</p>
<p>Guildy2: &#8220;Go left and you&#8217;ll hit the stables.  He&#8217;s there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Gratz!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Guildy1: &#8220;Gratz!&#8221;</p>
<p>Guildy3: &#8220;Gratz!&#8221;</p>
<p>Guildy4: &#8220;Gratz!&#8221;</p>
<p>Guildy2: &#8220;What are we doing that for?&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: *snicker*</p>
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		<title>By: Melmoth</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2694</link>
		<dc:creator>Melmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I would like to apologise to all readers for the exceptional level of spelling errors in this post, including the doozy in the title. I can only claim that the rant cloud had descended upon me and clouded my ability to even read the output of a spelling checker correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I would like to apologise to all readers for the exceptional level of spelling errors in this post, including the doozy in the title. I can only claim that the rant cloud had descended upon me and clouded my ability to even read the output of a spelling checker correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Melmoth</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2693</link>
		<dc:creator>Melmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“phew, nearly done with those exploration achievements, what a chore” &lt;/i&gt;

They do boggle the mind, but I guess some people like that sense of satisfaction at the end of having achieved something... arduous like that. And some people like to complete everything they can, no matter how tiresome.

Let&#039;s be clear, I have nothing against these people, each to their own and all that. What annoys me is that they have to announce it, either looking for sympathy or congratulations.

Yeah, well I logged in! Where&#039;s my thanks?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“phew, nearly done with those exploration achievements, what a chore” </i></p>
<p>They do boggle the mind, but I guess some people like that sense of satisfaction at the end of having achieved something&#8230; arduous like that. And some people like to complete everything they can, no matter how tiresome.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be clear, I have nothing against these people, each to their own and all that. What annoys me is that they have to announce it, either looking for sympathy or congratulations.</p>
<p>Yeah, well I logged in! Where&#8217;s my thanks?!</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/27/grats-is-short-for-gratituous-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-2692</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t quite get the achievement hunters either - because when they do hunt achievements that involve exploring and the likes, they see it as a chore!

Now, chores that give rewards, I understand - they&#039;re not fun, but you&#039;re rewarded with something fun for going through them. Stuff that is fun and not a chore, but doesn&#039;t give rewards, I understand as well - after all, it&#039;s fun, which is a reward in itself. The zombie plague is an awesome example of that.

And, admittedly, part of the fun is all the &quot;serious raiders&quot; and self-proclaimed &quot;regular players&quot; bursting in flames when their beloved quest NPC isn&#039;t standing there a few weeks before one of the biggest bad guys currently known in the WoW lore is about to take over an entire continent because that bad guy is actually, you know, bad. Enough for this excourse.

Back to those achievements: What I don&#039;t get is stuff that isn&#039;t fun and doesn&#039;t give rewards - like those exploration achievements. Sure, achievements are nice, and exploring can be fun, but people who say &quot;phew, nearly done with those exploration achievements, what a chore&quot; do not have to hope for my understanding. I&#039;ll only shake my head in disbelief; better than no reaction ey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite get the achievement hunters either &#8211; because when they do hunt achievements that involve exploring and the likes, they see it as a chore!</p>
<p>Now, chores that give rewards, I understand &#8211; they&#8217;re not fun, but you&#8217;re rewarded with something fun for going through them. Stuff that is fun and not a chore, but doesn&#8217;t give rewards, I understand as well &#8211; after all, it&#8217;s fun, which is a reward in itself. The zombie plague is an awesome example of that.</p>
<p>And, admittedly, part of the fun is all the &#8220;serious raiders&#8221; and self-proclaimed &#8220;regular players&#8221; bursting in flames when their beloved quest NPC isn&#8217;t standing there a few weeks before one of the biggest bad guys currently known in the WoW lore is about to take over an entire continent because that bad guy is actually, you know, bad. Enough for this excourse.</p>
<p>Back to those achievements: What I don&#8217;t get is stuff that isn&#8217;t fun and doesn&#8217;t give rewards &#8211; like those exploration achievements. Sure, achievements are nice, and exploring can be fun, but people who say &#8220;phew, nearly done with those exploration achievements, what a chore&#8221; do not have to hope for my understanding. I&#8217;ll only shake my head in disbelief; better than no reaction ey?</p>
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