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	<title>Comments on: Phoenix Gate Strategy Guide</title>
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		<title>By: Toblakai</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2626</link>
		<dc:creator>Toblakai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t &quot;plant&quot; your flag if the enemy are holding onto their flag too - until one or the other flag-carriers is killed neither side can complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t &#8220;plant&#8221; your flag if the enemy are holding onto their flag too &#8211; until one or the other flag-carriers is killed neither side can complete.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoso</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2625</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Khan: Yup, thankfully there is a 15 minute time limit.  Though it often seems like a long 15 minutes.  Probably a good thing, otherwise I&#039;m not sure anybody would ever have finished a PUG Phoenix Gate, there&#039;d still be people in there from the head start...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Khan: Yup, thankfully there is a 15 minute time limit.  Though it often seems like a long 15 minutes.  Probably a good thing, otherwise I&#8217;m not sure anybody would ever have finished a PUG Phoenix Gate, there&#8217;d still be people in there from the head start&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2624</link>
		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there at least a time-limit on the Phoenix Sun instance?  If not I think I&#039;ll pass on that one.  Just the sound of it brings back too many memories of WSG in WoW.  *shudder*  Never again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there at least a time-limit on the Phoenix Sun instance?  If not I think I&#8217;ll pass on that one.  Just the sound of it brings back too many memories of WSG in WoW.  *shudder*  Never again.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyrana</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2623</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyrana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zoso Yes, on the two occasions when Destruction actually captured the flag and noticed that we were unable to plant it, (That&#039;s what you do, right? Plant flags?) the earth stopped still for a moment, and I&#039;m pretty sure we opened a miniature black hole or caused a rip in the fabric of the space-time continuum.  So...maybe that&#039;s what&#039;s up.  Very rare indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zoso Yes, on the two occasions when Destruction actually captured the flag and noticed that we were unable to plant it, (That&#8217;s what you do, right? Plant flags?) the earth stopped still for a moment, and I&#8217;m pretty sure we opened a miniature black hole or caused a rip in the fabric of the space-time continuum.  So&#8230;maybe that&#8217;s what&#8217;s up.  Very rare indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoso</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2622</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Guido: Just call me Sisyphus...  (Ooh, Sisyphus, good character name)

@Winged Nazgul: Ah, the temptation of the pew pew.  It&#039;s like Mythic don&#039;t want people defending the flag itself.

@Saylah: Yup, Mourkain is greatly preferable for PUGing (and Fargo has the strategy pretty much covered).  After a few rounds, though, I&#039;ll think &quot;I&#039;m bored of Mourkain, I&#039;ll try another scenario&quot;, play Phoenix Gate, and then think &quot;yeah... Mourkain, then.&quot;

@Aaron: UFO style destructible scenery, oh yes!  OK, so every scenario would be a blackened, smoking wasteland within seconds, but still...

@Van Hemlock: Tennyson would be prouLOLZ

@Melmoth: No speak-o PUG-o!

@Kyrana: Curious, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ve never seen such a thing on the Order side, or anyone shouting suggestions like staying at the spawnpoint after Destruction took the flag (or anyone shouting anything else, really... apart from the occasional mandatory &quot;WTF r u doing u noooobs&quot;).  That said, seeing either side pick up the flag, let alone capture it, is something of a rarity, so I don&#039;t have too many data points to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Guido: Just call me Sisyphus&#8230;  (Ooh, Sisyphus, good character name)</p>
<p>@Winged Nazgul: Ah, the temptation of the pew pew.  It&#8217;s like Mythic don&#8217;t want people defending the flag itself.</p>
<p>@Saylah: Yup, Mourkain is greatly preferable for PUGing (and Fargo has the strategy pretty much covered).  After a few rounds, though, I&#8217;ll think &#8220;I&#8217;m bored of Mourkain, I&#8217;ll try another scenario&#8221;, play Phoenix Gate, and then think &#8220;yeah&#8230; Mourkain, then.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Aaron: UFO style destructible scenery, oh yes!  OK, so every scenario would be a blackened, smoking wasteland within seconds, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>@Van Hemlock: Tennyson would be prouLOLZ</p>
<p>@Melmoth: No speak-o PUG-o!</p>
<p>@Kyrana: Curious, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ve never seen such a thing on the Order side, or anyone shouting suggestions like staying at the spawnpoint after Destruction took the flag (or anyone shouting anything else, really&#8230; apart from the occasional mandatory &#8220;WTF r u doing u noooobs&#8221;).  That said, seeing either side pick up the flag, let alone capture it, is something of a rarity, so I don&#8217;t have too many data points to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyrana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyrana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My good friend Caliga referred me to this blog, and I wanted to drop you a note and say--well done!  It&#039;s very enjoyable and informative and quite frequently makes me smile.

As for the Phoenix Gate scenario, is anyone else noticing that it&#039;s possible for your enemy (I&#039;ve only noticed Order doing this, as I play Destruction) to prevent you from placing the captured flag in the right place?  I&#039;ve seen this happen several times, where we bring the flag back to the large, stone temple-looking building (I can&#039;t say that&#039;s it&#039;s a temple for sure--it might really be a Wal-greens or something, those are everywhere these days, but I digress), and then...POW! We can&#039;t place the flag,despite increasingly frantic right-clicking.  We stand there looking silly with a blue column of light surrounding our flag-bearer until Order masses and assault, comes over and either kills him or captures our flag.

It&#039;s very frustrating.  I&#039;ve heard that this can be caused by the opponents refusing to leave their spawnpoint.  Any ideas?  It seems a bit shady to me. *shrugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My good friend Caliga referred me to this blog, and I wanted to drop you a note and say&#8211;well done!  It&#8217;s very enjoyable and informative and quite frequently makes me smile.</p>
<p>As for the Phoenix Gate scenario, is anyone else noticing that it&#8217;s possible for your enemy (I&#8217;ve only noticed Order doing this, as I play Destruction) to prevent you from placing the captured flag in the right place?  I&#8217;ve seen this happen several times, where we bring the flag back to the large, stone temple-looking building (I can&#8217;t say that&#8217;s it&#8217;s a temple for sure&#8211;it might really be a Wal-greens or something, those are everywhere these days, but I digress), and then&#8230;POW! We can&#8217;t place the flag,despite increasingly frantic right-clicking.  We stand there looking silly with a blue column of light surrounding our flag-bearer until Order masses and assault, comes over and either kills him or captures our flag.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very frustrating.  I&#8217;ve heard that this can be caused by the opponents refusing to leave their spawnpoint.  Any ideas?  It seems a bit shady to me. *shrugs*</p>
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		<title>By: Melmoth</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2620</link>
		<dc:creator>Melmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deee...fend..iiing?

Ha ha ha, Zos, you and your silly made-up words!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deee&#8230;fend..iiing?</p>
<p>Ha ha ha, Zos, you and your silly made-up words!</p>
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		<title>By: Van Hemlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van Hemlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...charge of the ADHD brigade&quot;

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in fro-zOMG NMEZ! PEWPEW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;charge of the ADHD brigade&#8221;</p>
<p>Cannon to right of them,<br />
Cannon to left of them,<br />
Cannon in fro-zOMG NMEZ! PEWPEW!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2618</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Witch Elves are so thin they can hide behind trees just behind Order&#039;s flag and are impossible to see. Although one incident did lead to a comedy game of peekaboo as the elf kept strafing in and out of cover while I tried to pepper her with DoT spells. If only Bright Wizards could set fire to the environment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witch Elves are so thin they can hide behind trees just behind Order&#8217;s flag and are impossible to see. Although one incident did lead to a comedy game of peekaboo as the elf kept strafing in and out of cover while I tried to pepper her with DoT spells. If only Bright Wizards could set fire to the environment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Saylah</title>
		<link>http://www.kiasa.org/2008/10/07/phoenix-gate-strategy-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-2617</link>
		<dc:creator>Saylah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t PUG Phoenix Gate.  It can be the longest 15 minutes of your life, if you&#039;re in there with a pack-o-idiots.  You can get steam rolled and toyed with if people refuse to defend.  And of course, that happened to me enough to give up on PUG&#039;g PG.  I find Mourkain the safest PUG map - stupid people can win if there&#039;s just two people that have a clue (one with the relic and a healer).  The others can just randomly kill if that&#039;s all they can think of doing and you can still win. *Smile*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t PUG Phoenix Gate.  It can be the longest 15 minutes of your life, if you&#8217;re in there with a pack-o-idiots.  You can get steam rolled and toyed with if people refuse to defend.  And of course, that happened to me enough to give up on PUG&#8217;g PG.  I find Mourkain the safest PUG map &#8211; stupid people can win if there&#8217;s just two people that have a clue (one with the relic and a healer).  The others can just randomly kill if that&#8217;s all they can think of doing and you can still win. *Smile*</p>
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